The Scope 3 Podcast

The Scope 3 Podcast

The fortnightly podcast for business leaders looking to discover solutions, insights and best practice to address their Scope 3 emissions

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Chancery Lane Project and Ivalua

Episode 17

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Giddy with excitement for the Christmas break, Ollie and Tom bring you the final episode of 2024.

This time, the pair are joined by two transformative leaders to unpack how businesses can leverage both technology and legal frameworks to drive sustainability at scale.

Ollie is in conversation with Ben Metz, Executive Director of the Chancery Lane Project, who explains how contracts can become powerful tools for climate action. He walks us through the Chancery Lane Project’s groundbreaking work in aligning legal documents with climate goals, helping firms seamlessly embed sustainability into business operations.

Then, Tom chats with Vishal Patel from Ivalua to find out how procurement teams can take actionable steps to address supply chain emissions. From using AI to streamline supplier collaboration to designing systems that prioritise impact, Vishal shares practical insights into turning ambition into measurable results.

Before all that Ollie – fresh from offering a bit too much information about his bowel behaviour – points us in the direction of two viral-threatening social posts taking LinkedIn by storm this week. You will find them here and here.

Enjoy the show. And have a great Christmas and New Year break. We are back on 15 January 2025 with Episode 18.

Ben Metz, Chancery Lane Project

Vishal Patel, Ivalua

Grant Thornton and Zevero

Episode 16

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This episode was recorded in between Ollie and Tom excitedly opening the doors of their advent calendars (it seems they have both been seriously spoiled by their wives this time around). Ollie is joined by Richard Jamison, Head of Procurement and Property at Grant Thornton. Richard shares his journey from “falling into procurement” to becoming a champion for sustainability within his firm. He’s candid about the challenges of tackling Scope 3, the importance of collaboration, and why he thinks procurement teams hold the key to meaningful climate action. 

With practical advice, insightful anecdotes, and a dose of humor, Richard’s perspective is a must-hear for anyone navigating the complexities of supply chain emissions. “Procurement isn’t just about buying things. It’s about creating value. And in today’s world, value is measured in sustainability and resilience.”

Meanwhile, Tom joins the dynamic duo behind Zevero, George Wade and Ben Richardson, who are shaking up the world of Scope 3 with their innovative approach to decarbonisation. From waste management to redefining data-driven carbon reduction strategies, George and Ben share their journey, the hurdles they’ve faced, and why they believe tackling Scope 3 is not just doable – it’s exciting. “The challenge with Scope 3 isn’t just its size; it’s that companies focus on the wrong things. They’re obsessing over pallet wrap instead of tackling the real emissions hotspots.”

It’s another episode packed with actionable insights, inspiring stories, and a healthy dose of optimism. If you’re ready to learn how to make faster, smarter, and more confident decisions to achieve your Scope 3 goals, this one’s for you.

What You’ll Learn:

  • Scope 3 demystified:
    Why it’s often misunderstood and how businesses can focus on high-impact areas instead of low-priority distractions.

  • The role of procurement:
    How procurement professionals can be game-changers in driving sustainable practices across supply chains.

  • Making faster, more confident decisions:
    How companies like Grant Thornton and Zevero are moving beyond hesitation to implement practical, scalable solutions.

  • Collaboration is key:
    Why partnerships—whether with suppliers, peers, or innovative startups—are essential for achieving emissions goals.

  • The power of disruption:
    How startups like Zevero are accelerating progress with bold, data-driven approaches that deliver tangible results.

Links and resources mentioned:

Richard Jamison, Grant Thornton

Ben Richardson, Zevero

George Wade, Zevero

Reckitt and Altruistiq

Episode 15

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It’s another powerful episode of the Scope 3 Podcast, with plenty of insight and examples to shed light on the complexities of managing Scope 3 emissions.

Ollie is joined by his golfing buddy, David Croft, Global Sustainability Lead at Reckitt. He takes us deep inside the company’s ambitious sustainability strategy, sharing how the firm is leveraging data and innovation to transform its supply chain and products while empowering consumers to make more sustainable choices. From actionable insights on decarbonising global operations to the role of procurement in tackling Scope 3, David’s perspective is a masterclass in driving systemic change.

Meanwhile, Tom sits down with the eloquent Saif Hameed, founder and CEO of Altruistiq who shares his inspiring journey from environmental activism in Pakistan to founding his cutting-edge sustainability intelligence platform. 

Saif explains how he and his team are helping global brands track, measure, and reduce their carbon footprints with precision, and why technology and collaboration are key to solving today’s biggest environmental challenges.

Whether you’re curious about the evolving role of data in sustainability or looking for strategies to engage suppliers and consumers in impactful ways, these episodes continue to deliver an essential roadmap for tackling Scope 3 emissions head-on.

David Croft, Reckitt

Saif Hameed, Altruistiq

Interface and Pledge

Episode 14

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In what is another insightful episode of the Scope 3 Podcast, we’re joined by two pioneers of supply chain emissions reduction.

Liz Minné is Head of Global Sustainability Strategy at Interface. And David de Picciotto is CEO of Pledge. Together, they bring fresh perspectives on tackling the toughest Scope 3 challenges, from emissions management in complex supply chains to scaling impactful carbon solutions in logistics.

Liz shares Interface’s journey in sustainability, including the company’s groundbreaking work in carbon-negative products and deep partnerships with suppliers to reduce emissions. David introduces us to Pledge, a platform designed to help logistics providers manage their emissions data with precision, enabling measurable action for real-world reductions.

Tune in with Ollie and Tom (Scope 3’s very own Mark and Donny Wahlberg) as we explore how new standards are being set in Scope 3 emissions – pushing boundaries on everything from product innovation to data-driven logistics solutions. Whether you’re just starting your carbon journey or refining your Scope 3 strategy, this episode offers actionable insights and inspiration for every stage.

You will learn:

  • How Interface’s ambitious approach to carbon-neutral and carbon-negative flooring impacts Scope 3 emissions across their entire supply chain.

  • The importance of data accuracy and detailed emissions tracking in logistics, and how Pledge supports companies in making informed, measurable reductions.

  • Practical insights on engaging suppliers effectively and how collaboration can lead to innovation that benefits the environment and business goals alike.

Key topics covered:

  • Interface’s groundbreaking approach to carbon-neutral flooring:

    • Liz Minne explains Interface’s long-standing commitment to sustainability, discussing how the company has developed carbon-negative flooring products and expanded its Scope 3 goals.

    • She shares insights into Interface’s journey to cut down on carbon emissions by reducing reliance on offsets and instead innovating within its supply chain.

    • Liz describes Interface’s dedication to supplier engagement, highlighting how collaborative relationships have led to advancements in recycled content and bio-based materials.

  • The Pledge platform’s focus on logistics:

    • David de Picciotto introduces Pledge’s unique approach to managing logistics emissions, focusing on depth rather than breadth in tracking and measuring carbon impact.

    • He explains how Pledge leverages granular data, such as shipment-level and activity-based data, to help companies get a clear picture of their logistics emissions.

    • David discusses the need for data consistency and accuracy in logistics emissions reporting, and how Pledge is building a “system of record” for companies to monitor and manage their carbon footprint.

  • Innovative strategies for supplier collaboration:

    • Both Liz and David emphasize the importance of working closely with suppliers to drive meaningful Scope 3 reductions.

    • Liz highlights Interface’s strategies for supplier alignment on carbon reduction goals and the collaborative initiatives that have resulted in 100% recycled content for some of their products.

    • David explains how Pledge empowers companies to work with logistics providers on alternative routes, vehicle types, and fuel options that can reduce emissions in real time.

  • Future goals and industry trends:

    • Liz and David discuss the growing role of innovation and collaboration within Scope 3 strategies. Liz shares how Interface’s commitment to Scope 3 pushes her team to constantly innovate, while David touches on the role of regulation and technology in creating industry-wide progress.

    • Both speakers agree that meaningful decarbonization will require continuous adaptation to new technologies, industry standards, and regulatory expectations.

Liz Minné, Interface

David de Picciotto, Pledge

Nationwide Building Society and Ecochain

Episode 13

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Nationwide Building Society is the world's largest building society, serving over 16 million members.

It’s a company taking its Scope 3 seriously. It has a goal to reduce its upstream Scope 3 emissions across categories 1, 2 and 4 by 42% by 2030. And these upstream emissions are around 80 times the emissions of Scope 1.

Leading the charge is the company’s Responsible Business Manager, Zara Williams. She’s fresh from picking up a CIPS award for Nationwide’s Commitment to supply chain decarbonisation. The judges (Ollie among them) particularly liked the firm’s efforts to establish new, proportionate, science-based target expectations for suppliers of high-value contracts.

Ollie knows her story well – and he was dead keen to get her on to the podcast so that she can share her journey with you too.

Elsewhere, Tom meets Ecochain, solutions provider that has, since 2011, gained the insights needed to help businesses bring sustainability in-house. As Floris Schiks, the company’s Business Director says, the company exists to enabling different stakeholders on a supplier level to actually understand the impact of their products after having modelled it – and then translate this into everyday decisions.

It’s a business with some big ideas and plenty of insights to share.

Key takeaways

  • Many organisations are overwhelmed by the number of available tools for Scope 3.

  • Nationwide is committed to reducing its Scope 3 emissions by 42% by 2030.

  • Zara Williams emphasises the importance of sustainable procurement.

  • Engaging suppliers is crucial for achieving sustainability goals.

  • Training and support for suppliers can enhance engagement.

  • Setting proportionate expectations for suppliers is essential.

  • The podcast highlights the need for continuous improvement in sustainability practices.

  • Collaboration across teams is key to successful sustainability initiatives. Engaging procurement is essential for successful decarbonisation efforts.

  • Leadership buy-in from procurement teams significantly impacts training effectiveness.

  • Training suppliers is crucial for building their capability in sustainability.

  • Technology can streamline supplier engagement and data collection processes.

  • AI can reduce the burden of repetitive data requests from suppliers.

  • Sustainability practices should be integrated into everyday business operations.

  • Companies should not let the pursuit of perfection hinder progress.

  • Supplier engagement programs can drive meaningful change in emissions reduction.

  • The design phase of a product is where the most impact can be made.

  • Listening to market needs is vital for developing effective sustainability tools.

Zara Williams, Nationwide Building Society

Floris Schiks, Ecochain

NatWest and Green Project Technologies

Episode 12

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Both guests on this episode make Ollie and Tom feel incredibly old.

Megan Youngs is Scope 3 Carbon Reporting Manager at the UK-headquartered bank, NatWest. She admits loving Scope 3 – a subject she taught herself during lockdown. Tune in to her chat with Ollie in which she explains the specific Scope 3 challenges for service-based businesses, the importance of internal teams working together, on how consultants can help companies like NatWest on Scope 3, and her advice for youngsters treading a similar path to herself.

“Scope 3 isn’t just about carbon. It’s a chance to understand so many different aspects of a company,” she says.

Meanwhile, Tom is on the line to New York to chat with Sam Stark, the founder and CEO of Green Project Technologies. His is a company with a clear mission: to democratise carbon accounting for the hundreds of thousands of small and medium sized enterprises out there desperate to engage in Scope 3 decarbonisation, but without a big budget.

Key takeaways

  • Procurement professionals play a crucial role in sustainability.

  • Recognition of achievements in sustainability is important.

  • Sustainable procurement is a journey that requires vulnerability.

  • Engaging suppliers is essential for decarbonization efforts.

  • Believing in the possibility of change is key to progress.

  • Data transparency is critical for effective decision-making.

  • Simplifying requests to suppliers can enhance engagement.

  • Innovative solutions are emerging in waste management.

  • The future of sustainability is bright with ongoing efforts.

Megan Youngs, NatWest

Sam Stark, Green Project Technologies

BMO Financial Group and Pathfinder

Episode 11

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As ever, Ollie is on the road, this time in New York for Climate Week (and he’s got plenty to share with you on that front).

As ever, Ollie is getting things wrong. Not only is he insisting on referring to this week’s guest as Sher-ee and not Sherrie, but he’s making up words. At one point during this episode he describes something as “valuesome”.

Anyway, it’s another cracking episode, with a wealth of stories, insights and inspiration from the world of Scope 3.

In the hot seat is Sherrie O’Doyle, a seasoned procurement professional and current Director of Sustainable Procurement with BMO Financial Group, North America’s 8th largest bank. And she is so full of wonderful nuggets of wisdom, insight, tips and advice that the conversation is guaranteed to have you reaching for a pen and paper to jot down some notes.

Meanwhile, Tom catches up with Pathfinder Sustainability Data, a fairly new venture with a clear mission: to give businesses the tools, insights and data to get to grips with their waste and recycling – a crucial component of their Scope 3 emissions.

Enjoy the show.

Key takeaways

  • Procurement professionals play a crucial role in sustainability.

  • Recognition of achievements in sustainability is important.

  • Sustainable procurement is a journey that requires vulnerability.

  • Engaging suppliers is essential for decarbonization efforts.

  • Believing in the possibility of change is key to progress.

  • Data transparency is critical for effective decision-making.

  • Simplifying requests to suppliers can enhance engagement.

  • Innovative solutions are emerging in waste management.

  • The future of sustainability is bright with ongoing efforts.

Sherrie O’Doyle, BMO Financial Group

Diane Gahafer, Pathfinder Sustainability Data

Stacey Harralson, Pathfinder Sustainability Data

Henkel and Terrascope

Episode 10

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We’re back from our Summer break – Ollie sounding very fresh, Tom less so after he spent the whole of last week walking the North Downs on a charity trek.

But there’s excitement in the air. The world of Scope 3 has been incredibly busy in the past few weeks, and Ollie brings you up to speed on what’s happening.

And the boys are delighted to welcome two great guests to the show. Bertrand Conquéret is the first Chief Procurement Officer to feature. And he’s something of a hero in Scope 3 circles.

Not only is he the CPO of Henkel, a company that makes everything from hair care products and laundry detergents to adhesives and sealants (and a company for which he has strategically transformed the global supply chain to support carbon reduction), he’s also co-founder of the brilliant Together for Sustainability initiative. Oh, and he was also instrumental in establishing the Sustainability Procurement Pledge in 2019, empowering procurement teams to reach the UN Sustainable Development Goals.

“Procurement is much more than a role. It’s a responsibility,” he tells Ollie.

Meanwhile, Tom sat down with the really impressive CEO of Terrascope, Maya Hari.With the Land-Based Economy accounting for over a third of global greenhouse gas emissions, equipping companies in the food and drink sector with dynamic insights that help them make the right decisions is crucial. This is something Maya knows all too well, leading a company that has spun out of the agri food commodity giant OLAM, a business with an incredibly complex supply chain.

Key takeaways

  • Setting achievable goals and targets for Scope3 emissions reduction is a challenge for organisations.

  • Outcome-based metrics, such as the percentage of revenue associated with renewable energy or the percentage of electric vehicles, can provide practical measures for decarbonization.

  • Collaboration and innovation are key to driving decarbonization efforts in supply chains.

  • Bertrand Conqueray, Chief Procurement Officer of Henkel, discusses the importance of collaboration and the role of procurement in driving sustainability.

  • Maya Harry, CEO of Terrascope, shares insights into the role of technology in emissions measurement and management in the food and agriculture sector. Scope 3 emissions in the food and drink sector are a significant contributor to global greenhouse gas emissions.

  • The Product Carbon Footprint (PCF) is a crucial tool for measuring and reducing Scope 3 emissions.

  • Collaboration and engagement with suppliers are essential for achieving significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions.

  • Partnerships with organisations like M2030 can help accelerate the development and engagement of suppliers at a larger scale.

  • Continuous improvement, long-term thinking, and a focus on sustainability are key to achieving sustainability goals.

Bertrand Conquéret, Henkel

Maya Hari, Terrascope

Essity and ClimateCamp

Episode 9

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Ollie is fresh from taking the Scope 3 Peer Group to Chicago, and is full of insights and reflections (and a slight croakiness), reporting from his hotel room in the Windy City.

Elsewhere, the brilliant Nicole Anderson Brodin, Sustainable Procurement Manager at Essity, sits in the hotseat to reflect on both her successes and challenges that still remain on her supply chain decarbonisation journey. The Stockholm based business has a huge portfolio of products, covering everything from tissue paper to incontinence products. So, she certainly has a big job on her hands.

As she tells Ollier, she’s more than up to the job, not least because she’s with a business that gets it – and has been collecting supplier site data for the last 20 years. Next stop: Product Carbon Footprints. We think you’ll get a lot out of listening to her approach and philosophy to the Scope 3 challenge.

Meanwhile, Tom sat down with the impressive Stijn Gysemans. He’s the co-founder and CEO of ClimateCamp, a really interesting solutions business that doesn’t believe that Scope 3 can be solved by way of a risk based approach. No, it’s all about giving suppliers a platform to shine so that brands everywhere can achieve their net zero goals. It certainly makes for an interesting chat.

Key takeaways

  • There is a lack of confidence and nervousness around Scope3 and targets, but it is important to accept that it is a challenging process and be willing to rethink plans and targets.

  • Sharing challenges and failures is valuable in learning and improving the approach to supply chain decarbonization.

  • Procurement plays a crucial role in supplier conversations and can intervene strategically to ensure suppliers are aligned with decarbonization goals.

  • Product carbon footprints need to be adaptable and flexible, and efforts should be made to make them a competitive advantage for suppliers.

Nicole Anderson Brodin, Essity

Stijn Gysemans, ClimateCamp

Avantor Sciences and Muir AI

Episode 8

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Ollie has been travelling again, this time to Vermont from whence he returned with plenty of anecdotes from his time spent with a large group of chief sustainability officers from some of the biggest companies in the world. “What are we going to do when we all miss our Scope 3 targets?” they ask themselves. It makes for a fascinating listen.

In the Scope 3 Practitioner hot seat this time is Emma Howcroft, Global Sourcing Sustainability Director at the life sciences business, Avantor Sciences. The former Caffè Nero and GSK sustainability star has been engrossed in all manner of sustainability challenges over the years – from packaging to human rights. And she is full of nuggets of wisdom on the subject of supply chain emissions. She’s especially vocal on the subject of data – capturing it, organising it, using it and, crucially, sharing it.

Tom sits down with the impressive team behind Muir AI, co-founders Harris Chalat and Peter Williams. After leaving behind impressive roles at SpaceX and Amazon, the pair have quickly cemented their position in solving the biggest challenge of our time: supply chain emissions. Harris and Peter explain how their business is providing scaled product-level insights for supply chain optimisation – and what the future holds for Muir AI as an engine for decarbonisation of global supply chains.

Enjoy the show.

Key takeaways include:

  • Setting and achieving Scope 3 targets is a challenge for organisations, and there is a need for validation and sharing of data.

  • Empathy and understanding the complexities of sustainability challenges are important in driving change throughout the value chain.

  • Solution providers should focus on integrating data from various sustainability topics and providing supplier portals for real-time data updates.

  • Better validation of data and rules for data entry can improve the quality and usability of sustainability data.

  • Collaboration and education are key in addressing Scope 3 emissions and driving sustainability efforts.

  • Using secondary data and universal codings can help validate and prompt suppliers for accurate emissions data.

  • Focusing on nature and resource dependence is just as important as addressing greenhouse gas emissions.

  • Toolkits are needed to educate suppliers on nature-related sustainability.

References

  • Tom mentioned the sustainability journalist, David Burrows. You can find him on LinkedIn here.

  • The event Ollie went to in Vermont, US was run by these guys.

  • More detail on the home improvement collaboration that we mentioned can be found here.

Emma Howcroft, Avantor Sciences

Harris Chalat and Peter Williams, Muir AI

Takeda and Optera

Episode 7

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We make no apologies for featuring another pharma business on the show this time; the sort of collaboration that is going on in that industry is to be truly admired.

Ollie chats with Bridget Ferrari, Director of Supplier Sustainability, Takeda who has plenty of recommendations for the solutions provider market. Elsewhere, she explains her relationship with procurement, the importance of curiosity and her delight that solving Scope3 is “no longer a check the box exercise….we can create real impact!”

Tom catches up with Tim Weiss, co-founder and CEO of Optera – another fantastic carbon solutions founder that previously made headway in the renewable energy space before hitting on a concept for creating a scalable software business to solve the climate crisis.

We also bring you up to speed on all you need to know about in the world of Scope 3, including updates and insights from the new Low’s Home Improvement, Thermo Fisher Scientific and Boots climate programmes.

Key takeaways include:

  • 42% of global public companies – and 29% of US public companies – are reporting on at least part of the Scope 3.

  • The pharmaceutical industry recognises the impact of sustainability on the health of the planet and collaborates pre-competitively to create standards and address global challenges.

  • Curiosity plays a crucial role in procurement professionals’ ability to ask questions, understand complexities, and drive impact in sustainability initiatives.

  • Solution providers should approach sustainability challenges with humility, understanding the complexities, and offering tailored solutions rather than a one-size-fits-all approach.

  • Optera’s approach involves using direct supplier data to quantify Scope 3 emissions – and focus on the most material suppliers to drive meaningful change.

  • The evolving landscape of carbon solutions and climate action requires continuous innovation, collaboration, and standardisation to make data more meaningful and actionable.

  • The market of carbon solutions needs to evolve to enable companies to make progress towards net zero, and this requires demystifying Scope 3 emissions and enabling companies to contribute to better solutions and progress.

Bridget Ferrari, Takeda

Tim Weiss, Optera

Haleon and Watershed

Episode 6

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In this episode, Ollie and Tom discuss the news coming out of Microsoft about its increased Scope 3 emissions – and their new strategy to address it. They also discuss the projects and initiatives of the Scope 3 Peer Group, including the development of a methodology for procurement to incorporate carbon pricing into commercial evaluation.

Ollie sits down with Chris Low, Head of Packaging Procurement and Sustainability at the consumer healthcare business, Haleon, who talks about the firm’s recent introduction of a carbon pricing mechanism for suppliers. It’s a bold move that Chris is hopeful will drive some serious positive impact within the firm’s supply chain.

Meanwhile, Tom chats with co-founder of Watershed, Taylor Francis. “We set out to build the software that we wish we could have had access to,” he says, referring to his previous role at Stripe. Today, 1% of the world’s emissions come from companies that use Watershed to measure, track and reduce those emissions. The pair explore the challenges and opportunities of Scope 3, the importance of accurate data collection, the role of AI in reporting, and the need for actionable solutions.

Key takeaways include:

  • Microsoft's recent announcement about their increased Scope 3 emissions highlights the challenges even leaders face in reducing emissions.

  • The Scope 3 Peer Group is working on various projects, including the development of a methodology for procurement to incorporate carbon pricing into commercial evaluation.

  • Haleon is implementing a Sustainable Supply Chain Program that includes a climate pledge for suppliers to commit to decarbonization.

  • The introduction of carbon pricing for suppliers provides an incentive for decarbonisation and data collection.

  • Standardisation and value-add are important factors for solution providers in the sustainability space. 

  • AI can play a role in automating reporting requirements and substituting for missing data.

  • Actionable solutions are needed to drive decarbonization, not just better measurement.

  • The future of Watershed is focused on making carbon actionable and enabling real decarbonization.

Chris Low, Haleon

Taylor Francis, Watershed

AstraZeneca, EcoVadis and Solitaire Townsend

Episode 5

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  • This time, Ollie and Tom are joined by sustainability comms legend Solitaire Townsend to chat through the fallout of the recent SBTi drama in potentially allowing offsets to cover Scope 3 emissions. “Promise instability and promise a wild ride to your board,” the co-founder of Futerra says.

    Rob Williams, Director of Sustainable Procurement in the Global Procurement team at AstraZeneca joins Ollie to talk about all things change management, bringing people with you, decarbonising heat, and helping to translate sustainability into procurement.

    He also explains what he and his team – and is CPO – have achieved. And it’s a lot. Including the fact that more than 60% of AstraZeneca’s spend is now with suppliers that have got a science based target for emissions reduction.

    Apparently, it’s Ollie’s favourite conversation so far on the podcast (but we’re sure he says that every week).

    The final guest is Julia Salant who heads up carbon solutions at EcoVadis, a company with a rich history in developing great tools and solutions for different companies for the past 16 years. Julia explains the company’s vision: to bring sustainability data to where procurement decisions are made. Today, some 100,000 suppliers are using EcoVadis, exchanging scorecards with multiple customers to maximise impact.

  • The controversy surrounding the SBTI’s decision to allow offsets for Scope 3 emissions highlights the need for clear governance and consultation processes within sustainability initiatives.

    Translating sustainability into procurement is essential for driving change and setting clear expectations for suppliers.

    Engaging procurement professionals and building their capability in sustainability is crucial for driving progress and achieving sustainability goals.

    The role of procurement professionals is becoming increasingly complex, as they must juggle multiple challenges and translate them into practical actions. Focus on science-based reduction targets and work within the boundaries of the planet.

    Addressing the challenge of decarbonising heat, a key source of carbon emissions in the supply chain, is crucial.

    Collaboration and integration among solution providers is key if we are to have meaningful impact.

    Expect increased regulation, collaboration, and cohesion in sustainability and carbon reporting.

  • Renewable Thermal Collaborative, renewablethermal.org

    Energize initiative, worldsustainabilityleaders.com/content/energize-cross-industry-collaboration-renewable-energy-scope2-pharma

    WBCSD Partnership for Carbon Transparency (PACT) wbcsd.org/Programs/Climate-and-Energy/Climate/SOS-1.5/News/Partnership-for-Carbon-Transparency-PACT-sets-foundations-for-standardized-emissions-data-exchange

Rob Williams, AstraZeneca

Solitaire Townsend, Futerra

Julia Salant, EcoVadis

Unilever and Manufacture 2030

Episode 4

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  • Long-time sustainability pioneer Unilever features on the show this week. The consumer goods giant, behind the famous brands we know and love (Hellmans and Ben & Jerry’s among them) has been driving sustainable thinking into every corner of its operations for the last two decades.

    In the supply chain, as with most companies, it’s been a slower burn. But in Stella Constantatos, the company’s Supplier Climate Programme Lead, they have a real star. She started working for the business more than 20 years ago when she joined the process engineering team in her home nation of South Africa. And she’s had many different roles since then. But today, she’s charged with tackling Scope 3 and not least in working with Unilever’s procurement organisation to find ways to leverage the firm’s enormous buying power to drive down emissions and benefit suppliers and customers alike.

    We are also joined by the brilliant Martin Chilcott, CEO of Manufacture 2030. Martin is in a hurry to speed up the pace of decarbonisation across huge manufacturing supply chains. Today, he and his team are managing 50 global supply chains of some of the biggest and most ambitious companies, including Toyota, Pfizer and Unilever. His philosophy: it’s all about making decarbonisation a real commercial opportunity for supplier companies.

  • The latest on the SBTi decision (and fallout): https://www.businessgreen.com/news/4199773/sbti-chief-expresses-deep-regret-corporate-carbon-offset-row

    The First Suppliers Hub: https://initiatives.weforum.org/first-movers-coalition/firstsuppliershub

    The Maria app by Ditch Carbon: https://ditchcarbon.com/

Stella Constantatos, Unilever

Martin Chilcott, Manufacture 2030

Schneider Electric and Makersite

Episode 3

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Christophe Quiquempoix, Schneider Electric

Neil D’Souza, Makersite

CBRE and Emitwise

Episode 2

Emitwise

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  • In this, our second episode of the Scope 3 Podcast, we kick things off by delving into the ramifications of the SBTi’s decision to downgrade hundreds of net zero commitments, and what that means for Scope 3 efforts.

    We're then joined by not one, but two guests. First, we have Mat Langley on board. He’s Global Head of Procurement for Sustainability at CBRE, one of the world’s biggest commercial property firms.

    And he’s joined by Mauro Cozzi, a tech entrepreneur and CEO and Co-Founder of Emitwise, a solutions provider on a mission to make it easier – and more profitable – for companies to decarbonise.

    Not only have both chaps got an interesting story to tell, but we’re treated to a rare insight into what makes a client-supplier relationship succeed (hint: it’s all about the long term).

Mat Langley, CBRE

Mauro Cozzi, Emitwise

Dow, Gartner and Persefoni

Episode 1

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  • In this very first episode of the show, Ollie and Tom explain why they've decided to launch a podcast on Scope 3.

    We're then joined by Suzanne Greene, the Global Procurement Sustainability Lead at Dow Chemical who tells her story, her strategy, and her philosophy for solving the Scope 3 challenge. And she has plenty of nuggets of advice and wisdom to share.

    We also kick start our deep dive into some of the solutions, technologies and platforms. This time, we meet the team behind Persefoni, one of the big software companies really leading the charge on supply chain decarbonisation.

    Oh, and Ollie rekindles his bromance with Miguel Cossio, Gartner's font of all knowledge on Scope 3 solutions.

Suzanne Greene, Dow

Suzanne Greene, Dow

Kentaro Kawamori, Persefoni

Kentaro Kawamori, Persefoni

Miguel Cossio, Gartner

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